Renewing My Non Lucrative Visa in Spain

January 2, 2018

I have been stressing out over renewing my visa for quite some time. First, it’s impossible to get an appointment and 2nd, I will be out traveling when my visa aka residency card expires so I needed to get all the necessary paperwork in before I left the country. I even contacted NIEBarcelona.com to help me “secure” an appointment. Let’s just say that this was a waste of 90€ and that I did not need this service at all. The required paperwork needed for this was found by researching online.

Please note – these are instructions for renewing for a non-lucrative visa. I imagine the work visas and student visas are different paperwork but not too different.

To take the pressure off, let’s begin by saying that you do NOT need an appointment. That’s right guys! When I contacted NIEBarcelona, I was under the impression that they had secured an appointment for me and that the process would be in and out. We all know how impossible it can be to get an appointment IN the city. At first they told me to meet at Placa St. Miguel, 3 at 12:30pm today (January 2nd) and that my contact would bring my “appointment confirmation.” Then I got a last minute email to meet at Calle Bergara, 12. Upon arrival there was a line out the door. Guess what? There never was an appointment to begin with. I paid her 90€ to stand in line and hang out with me. Save your money and do it my way.

Hours

Calle Bergara, 12 (Near Placa Catalunya) Office Hours

Tip: You can start applying for your renewal 60 days prior to expiry date. The good thing about this renewal is that it will be good for TWO years.

Required Paperwork

  1. EX-01 Form (This is the newest form to date January 2, 2018 – you just need the first 2 pages) It’s slightly different from the older form found on the internet. In section 4, select “1a Renovacaión” and “Titular de autorización de residencia no lucrativa previa Inicial/Renovada.
  2. Original Passport + Photocopy of EVERY SINGLE PAGE. They require you to spend a minimum for 180 days in Spain for your application to be approved.
  3. Copy of NIE card – front & back
  4. Proof of sufficient funds – 2,130€/month so 51,120€ in a bank account (I have no clue how they come up with these amounts) That amount is required for the two year renewal. When I contacted NIEBarcelona, they said it had to be in a Spanish bank account and they were persistent on it. WRONG. There was no way I was going to transfer that sum of money into a bank account here in Spain.I was in the states in November. I bank with Wells Fargo and they have the option of having your statements in Spanish. I printed out the last 3 months, got it notarized, went to the LA office to get the Apostille Stamp, and had it translated by a sworn translator here in Barcelona. To learn how I did the Apostille Stamp, you can refer back to my initial post on how I got my visa here. As far as a sworn translator, I used: Elisa Palaín Lorenz – elisapal@gmail.com. I only had my Apostille page and my notary page translated (25€/page) because my bank statements were already in Spanish.
  5. Proof of Medical Insurance  – Requirements are 0 deductible and 0 copay. I had Sanitas and was paying 80€/month and I barely used them. I needed a cheaper option so I got AME Insurance. I’m paying 37€/month with this new insurance. Contact: rruiz.ameasistencia@gmail.com – she speaks English. They will provide you a papers with the necessary conditions AND a payment receipt page to bring for your renewal.
  6. Empadronamiento (less than 3 months old) – I moved into my new apartment in June so I had to make an appointment to get a new piece of paper with a new date. Make you appointment for that here. Update – I guess you don’t need to make an appointment to get your empadronamiento. Just go to the office and supposedly you can do this at the automated kiosk.
  7. Tax Form 790-052 – Hover the mouse over “Barcelona” and click that. Fill out the form and mark 2.2. Then scroll down and click “Obtain Document.” Print out all 3 pages. You will bring those to a bank and pay 15.92€. They will then give you a receipt – KEEP THAT!
    Tasa 790-052
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Oficina De Extranjería – Calle Bergara, 12

 

I went at 12:30pm. I was out at 2:30 pm.

There will be a line and metal detectors once you get inside. (I didn’t even go through the metal detectors and I have no clue why they even have it there if they don’t use it?) Once you get in, there is a room to the right and someone sitting at a desk. Say you’re doing a renewal. You will be given a number. Then you can go next door and sit down and wait until your number is called. When your number is called, head over to the designated desk number. They will check all your documents, scan everything AND they give you back ALL your paperwork.

 

The important 3 pages that you need to hold on to are:

  • EX-01 form – on the top right of that form, they will stamp it
  • 790-052 Tax form – they will stamp this with a blue stamp
  • Payment receipt for the 790-052 Tax Form – also stamped with a blue stamp

These 3 documents are proof that your visa renewal is being processed.

To check the status, go here: https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/infoext2/jsp/indexnie.jsp
It asks for your NIE number, DATE OF APPOINTMENT (not the expiration) and the year you were born. After (2 weeks) I entered my information, I got this letter:
NIE Approval Letter White Out

Autorización De Regreso

So my residency card expires on February 28th and I will be on vacation till March 21st. As you know, it can take 4-8 weeks to receive any information about the visa. What I have to do is get an appointment for the Autorización De Regreso – a piece of paper that will allow me back into Spain.

Two options:

  1. Make an appointment and probably trek because finding an appointment near the city center is impossible.
  2. Show up to Rambla de Guipuscoa, 74 the day before you flight without an appointment. They open at 9am so I hear people suggesting going at 8am. I am not the kind of person that waits last minute. Plus, I heard someone not being able to get their regreso because they only take a certain amount of people without an appointment.

Making the Appointment

I needed an appointment in January. I started searching near the end of November and the soonest it gave me was January 25th! I booked it using my NIE number. Then every morning at 8am, I would keep searching to see if anything else sooner came up. Since the system only allows one appointment per NIE number, I used my passport number to search and when I finally found something I was happy with, I cancelled the other appointment.

If you’re not familiar with making an appointment, I have it here step by step:

Link to make appointment: https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/icpplus/index.html

Regreso Step 1

Select Barcelona, Autorización De Regreso, then Aceptar

Regreso Step 2

Select – CNP – Autorizaciones De Regreso, Aceptar

Regreso Step 3

Click Entrar

Regreso Step 4

Enter information and captcha, Aceptar

Regreso Step 5

Enter another stupid captcha

Regreso Step 6

A list of available offices populates. Badalona is an hour from me. Nearly impossible for an office in the city pops up. Click Siguente

Regreso Step 7

Enter telephone, email and another captcha and click “siguiente.”

Regreso Step 8

The office will send you a confirmation email. Make sure to print and bring it to your appointment.

Required Paperwork

  1. Confirmation of appointment
  2. EX-13 Form – Fill out the first two pages. On section 4, mark the first box “Titular de autorización de residence en periodo de renovacaión o prórroga”. Then in section 4.2, I wrote the dates that I would be leaving and coming back. As far as the 3rd page, leave it blank – I guess the office will fill it out
  3. Passport + photocopy of your main page AND your visa page. No need to make copies of every single page
  4. NIE Card – photocopy front & back
  5. Plane reservations – They didn’t even bother looking at it
  6. Tax Form 790-012 – Fill out top portion, then check the box that says “autorización de regreso.” Then scroll down and click the blue button “Descargar impreso rellenado” to download the form. Take this to the bank and pay 10.40€ and save the receipt. Pay this before you go to your appointment.
  7. NIE Renewal papers – remember those 3 pages I said to hold on to? Bring those PLUS a photocopy

My Experience

After booking my initial appointment for 1/25, I kept trying and trying every morning at 8am until an appointment miraculously showed up for 1/5 at 11:30 am. SCORE!

 

I got there at 11:00 am. There was a lady at the desk and she told me to take a seat. After one minute, a gentlemen came out and got me. Then he checked all my paperwork…awkward silence. And then he issued me my Regreso. I was out by 11:12am.

Regreso

Fingerprinting (Updated April 24, 2018)

So I went on vacation for 5 weeks. I came back into Spain and I gave them my regreso and the guy barely even looked at it. I was approved for my renewal about 3 weeks after my initial appointment. I just remember the approval letter saying that I can go to a police station near me to do fingerprints. WRONG! I showed up at the station on Mallorca and I was told I needed an appointment. Here we go again! Remember, you can only do fingerprinting AFTER your card expires.

Step 1: This is the link to make the appointment: https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/icpplus/citar

Here’s a tip – every Monday at 8:00 am the release appointments. When I did it, it was for 3 weeks out :-(. You can also check around 3pm – 5pm in case someone cancels. A few people tried that and had some luck.

For some reason the drop down button doesn’t work unless you click “volver” first.

Fingerprint1

Click “Volver” first!

Step 2:

Fingerprint2

Now you can select Barcelona in the drop down menu

Step 3:

Fingerprint3

For fingerprinting, select the last option.

Fingerprint4 Requirements

These are the required paperwork you need to bring. I will go over it below.

Fingerprint5

Enter your information

Fingerprint6Required Paperwork That You Must Bring

  1. Appointment confirmation
  2. NIE approval letter
  3. Passport
  4. Old residency card
  5. Passport photo – must be different photos from previous card. I brought the same ones and I had to go re-take them.
  6. ANOTHER stupid TAX Form 790 012 – Should be 18.73€. Check the circle that says “.TIE que documenta la renovación de la autorización de residencia temporal o la prórroga de la estancia o de la autorización para trabajadores transfronterizos.”
  7. Padron

I was in and out in less than 30 minutes (my appointment was for 9:11am) The lady told me my card would be ready in 30 days and that I could pick it up at the police station on Mallorca. I will check back in 3 weeks – hopefully it will be ready by then because I’m dying to go on a vacation.

123 Comments on “Renewing My Non Lucrative Visa in Spain

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  2. So happy to have found your post!! So for the first renewal you needed to show adequate savings for TWO years? That was my question which had me googling. Great info in your post!! Thanks so much for sharing 🙂

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  3. Wonderful info…. Thank you
    I am in Madrid and just beginning the renewal process. Did you have to fill in anything for Anexo I II? I’m not quite sure what to put there?
    Also, did you submit pay stubs and property info ( I have rental prop in US) or just bank statements?
    Thanks
    Maria

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    • Anexo on the EX-01 Form – I left that blank and it was fine! I didn’t submit any pay stubs – instead I submitted 3 months worth of bank statements that showed I had sufficient amounts to last me the next two years Hope this answers your questions.

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  4. Also, I thought I read somewhere that you have 60 days after NIE expiration to renew…..Anyone else know of this?

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  5. I’m so happy I found your blog!! I’m planning on moving to Barcelona in the next 8-12 months and I’m trying to figure everything out. I’m in LA now.

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  6. Thanks Jenny for the info. It’s great to find that someone has done the renewal really recently and the info you have provided is great and super detailed!

    I was just looking at the requirements here : http://extranjeros.empleo.gob.es/es/InformacionInteres/InformacionProcedimientos/Ciudadanosnocomunitarios/hoja011/

    and noticed that it seemed that bank statements (or any foreign document) would really need to be apostilled. I wanted to check because for my initial application, they didn’t have to be. I see that you got yours done for your renewal and I guess it makes sense as for the initial application, the consulate in our own country “verifies” the documents, whereas for the renewal, it’s up to the guys in the Oficina de Extranjero to do it. Bit of a pain though!

    I was just having a look at AME too. Looks like they’re just in Barcelona and surrounds though.
    Many thanks!

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  7. Thanks for all the info you shared. They have been helpful!

    Q: We are up for our 1st renewal and wondering if you recommend that we get our bank statements the Apostille stamp?

    Thanks again!

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  8. Hi- for the notary of your bank funds at your bank and getting it apostiled- my question is- if I do it from Spain how would I get the notary from my bank? and also getting it apostiled- how long does that take- would I need to mail it in from Spain. Thanks in advance! My card expires in 1 month and 10 days!

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    • Yes – When I was in the process of renewing, I read somewhere that they require 180 days minimum that you are in Spain – hence a photocopy of all passport pages so that they can count. They may not state it on the website…but hey, it’s Spain and they make everything difficult. I wouldn’t want to risk getting my renewal denied.

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  9. Hi, We live in the South, east of Malaga and this is our 3rd renewal of the non-lucrative visa.
    Your step-by-step instructions have been great!
    On our last renewal 2 years ago, they didn’t have online appointments (down here…it’s like a different country than BCN) and you’d have to get in line at the police station sometimes starting before 6am (in the cold and the dark with little kids!) and even then sometimes you would be too far back in line to actually get in that day.
    Online appointments have reached the south and wow, this is so much better.
    Thanks again.

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  10. We are in the initial stages of a getting a nonlucrative visa renewed and I can’t say how wonderful it was to find your blog. I was told that we could go to any Registro office for the renewal, that it did not have to be an office of Extranjería – this by the lady at the Extranjería when the inital visa was approved. So I expected to have to make an appointment at the Police office we usually go to. Any comment on that? Also, when I clicked on your link to get the Modelo 790, it offered up a code 012, not an 052 as expected. I was under the impression that a 012 was for the replacement of the TIE. Thanks for any further help!!

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    • Hello and thank you for your comment. I live in Barcelona so I found out that the only walk in appointments were at that particular office. Otherwise it was almost impossible for me to get an appointment at another office. Also, when I went to the police office to make my “finger print” appointment, they sent me somewhere else and told me I could only make an appointment online.

      I reviewed the link for the 790-052 – and after click “Barcelona” I still had the correct form of 790-052.

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  11. Thanks for the article, its really helpfull!

    Im trying to book apointment for fingerprints (its my first time I get the card).
    I tried the link and after choosing barcelona I dont get the same options like you did, only
    “application for authorization” and “information”.

    Is the “”application for authorization” the correct one or Im doing something wrong?

    Thanks

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  12. Hi — really great info, thanks!! I’ve followed all your advice and so far so good!! 😀

    Two questions for you…

    I just applied for my TIE renewal last week and they accepted my documents and the clerk said she didn’t think it was a problem with my financial information from the States, but it wasn’t apostilled… I’m not sure if this is going to be a problem. Would they accept documents for the application if they weren’t going to be accepted? (Guess this is Spain…)

    I’m going to apply for the ‘regresso’ because I’m planning on a trip to Italy, but I haven’t booked the tickets. My appointment in Mataro is Wednesday and don’t think I’ll be able to book anything before then. Do you think it’s 100% necessary to have these tickets booked?

    So many thanks again 😀

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    • Hi there! I’m very curious as to whether they will accept the financial documents. Can you please keep me updated on that?

      As far as the regreso, the guy that handled it didn’t even look at my plane tickets. Perhaps you can buy a fully refundable ticket just in case?

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      • Hi — I’ll keep you posted on both accounts for sure 🙂 If they don’t accept the bank statements, do you know what the time frame is for submitting new documents? Do I have to have it all sorted before the TIE expires, or if I have the ‘regresso’ does this give me extra time? Thanks again 😀

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      • Not sure about the time frame for submitting new paperwork. I assume should they need documents, they will give you a deadline. As far as the regreso, you can obtain it because you do have the necessary documents. It’s good for one time use when you enter back into the country. In my situation, they didn’t take that piece of paper when I entered back in from Japan so technically I could have gone in and out until it expires or until someone took it.

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  13. Thanks so much for this post, it was really helpful…I just successfully renewed my non-lucrative visa in Barcelona!

    For my US bank statements, all I submitted with them was a certified translation (I used rev.com) – they weren’t notarized or apostilled. I also included credit card statements indicating available credit, which definitely also helped. My Spanish bank statement was just a print-out of my account balance that I had them stamp in my nearest office.

    Since the wording of the requirement is a lot stricter it’s possible that this might not work for everyone, but I was definitely able to do it without notarizing anything or doing any apostilles.

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  14. Hello there! Thank you for the detailed info! I’m sure it took a lot of effort from you to document all these steps and carefully share them with others.

    I have a question for you, I heard that in Spain they tax you 22% yearly on any worldwide income you receive such as interests or dividends which is basically the minimum requirement for getting the permit (2160 EUR x 12 months). Is that correct? did you have to pay that before renewing your permit? Any info on that matter would be highly appreciated..

    Thank you!

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    • Hola! I’m not a tax expert so please consult with a tax advisor. I will say this – I did not do such things as you mentioned like paying 22% on yearly income. I also do not work in Spain. Sorry I cannot be of any more help

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  15. Hi great form for non lucrative visa. step by step guide and very useful. Thanks to Jenny for great work. I have applied my 1st renewal in Barcelona and they accepted my bank statement with bank letter explaining all the savings. all my statements and letters from bank were stamped by bank. i did not get it translated and the lady accepted it without translation. but i also drafted letter of intent along with bank letters and statement and explained all the balances and everything else in Spanish. my wife and my small daughter both have there independent non lucrative visa on their own both as a prinicpal applicant. so we all have renewals on different timing kind of frustrating renewing for everyone on diff timings. but i submitted mine like i submitted for my wife and my daughter last year. without Spanish translation and without apostle with letter of intent in Spanish. however in Canada we cant apostle the documents. My daughter and my wife were approved within a week . Also when i tried to make a appointment there were no appointment available online and i followed Jenny’s advice and went to CALLE BERGARA, 12 without appointment and i was in and out in 2 hours. the lady accepted all the papers without translation but thoroughly checked all the papers with originals before scanning and returning originals it to me. now crossing fingers to get approved soon. all our papers were submitted from Tarragona hence received approval in 4 to 5 days. lets see how long it will take here. hopefully i get approved this time without glitch.
    Hope this help. also to all the Canadian fellows there is new first tim hortons beside this office . so after office work we went to have our double double with some tim bits at timies after such a long time .

    I have a question i am trying to check my status online and its been a week i submitted my application and after entering everything correct it telling me file not found please submit the correct information (NO SE HA ENCONTRADO LA INFORMACIÓN SOLICITADA Por favor, revise que los datos introducidos sean los correctos. En cualquier caso, puede consultar el estado de sus expedientes a través de esta otra página de consulta: Consulta Número de Expediente)
    however i am trying with NIE and file number and i am unable to get the status. anyone has any solution will greatly appreciate the information. perhaps it takes few weeks to get information populated on net .

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  16. Hello there… I am trying to find out status on my Application. I am entering all the information correct but its telling me file not found. I applied for renewal in Barcelona more then 3 weeks ago. Anyone knows if i am doing anything wrong. or any solution how to find out the status. Thanks for any help on this matter…

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    • I just want to make sure you’re entering the data correct.
      It asks for your NIE
      Then it asks for the DATE OF YOUR APPOINTMENT (not the date your NIE expires)
      Then it asks for the year you were born.

      Is that what you put in?

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  17. Thanks Jenny. Yes i am entering it correctly. this is what i am putting NIE, then date of when i submitted all the paperwork and year of my birth. ( I went to Calle Bergara, 12. and submitted my renewal papers without appointment and without any problems )

    but it keeps showing me this strangely.
    (NO SE HA ENCONTRADO LA INFORMACIÓN SOLICITADA / Por favor, revise que los datos introducidos sean los correctos. En cualquier caso, puede consultar el estado de sus expedientes a través de esta otra página de consulta:Consulta Número de Expediente)

    I am thinking of waiting this week and if it does not show anything online i will go to the same office again to find out. My NIE is expiring on 14 of Nov so not much time left. getting nervous..
    Please let me know if anyone experienced same problem or have a solution to it.
    Thanks

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  18. Hello, I thought i will put new update it might help others. so around 6th of Nov i was able to see my status under process finally. It takes 3 to 4 weeks to start seeing your status. now today i see status is favorable so it took one week for them approve. what a relief. My card also expired today. I need to quickly find a fingerprint appointment. I should have taken the appointment in advance few weeks ago.

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  19. Hi, Jenny,

    Thanks a lot for the detailed description of your renewal process. It really helped me a lot with mine.

    Here’s a tip that will help others and perhaps you, Jenny, on your next renewal: You can skip the waiting at Calle Bergara, 12 simply by going to any Correos and have them scan all of your renewal documents using the OVRE process. It will cost about 5 euros but you will save at least 2 hours of your life. (Write “OVRE” on a piece of paper and hand it with your documentation to a postal worker to avoid the tricky pronunciation of “OVRE”. They’ll know what to do.)

    Cheers,

    Dave

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    • Hi Dave – So, to clarify you go to any post office and have them scan “all” documentation for renewal purposes through the OVRE. Once completed can I go to my local office? I ask as I am in Costa Brava and my office is not BCN. Still the same process to check on submission via their online site, yes? Thanks so very much! J. Marie

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  20. You get a paper copy of the documents that were scanned and a link to their digital version. (Yes, that’s right, you have them scan your paper documents and then they give you paper copies of your documents!)

    Checking the submission of the application is exactly as you describe above.

    The process took 5 weeks for me. They admit that they are experiencing a backlog on applications and the TIE queue is very, very long.

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  21. Hi Jenny! Thanks for this detailed post about such a frustrating process 🙂 I am renewing my visa at the moment and curious as to exactly what you had apostilled? The only thing I had apostilled when I applied was our FBI background check.

    Also, what did you provide for the Empadronamiento? Your apartment lease?

    Thanks again!
    Sara

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  22. Extremely helpful and useful info, THANK YOU for sharing this!!
    So from what I understood, even if you start the process 2 months before your current visa expires, because of the fact that you can only get fingerprinted after it expires and the new card will take 4 weeks or so to be ready, then there will still be a one month or so gap where you will need the regreso authorization if you leave Spain, is that correct?? Thanks 🙂

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      • Hi,
        My NIE card will expire on July 30 2019. I have a new resolution, and this has the validity untill October 2020. From the university, they say´s, I can book an appointment to renew my NIE card before the expiration.
        Now, I am getting confused.

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      • Hi,
        My NIE card will expire on July 30 2019. I have a new resolution, and this has the validity until October 2020. From the university, they say´s, I can book an appointment to renew my NIE card before the expiration (I mean can give the fingerprint for the next card).
        Now, I am getting confused. I should choose the date before or after the expiration of previous NIE card?

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  23. Thank you for your blog. I, like you, have a Wells Fargo account but their site does not allow printing statements in Spanish. I have written twice and have been told it is not possible at this time. I have read multiple comments on your blog regarding folks submitting financials without translation/apostille and having them accepted. Perhaps each office is different? I will be going back to the same Catalan office (not BCN) and am wondering what your take is on the above. If they accept the documents one can assume they will be processed. If they do not accept worse case scenario is I would simply need to have them translated here. Thanks again! J. Marie

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    • Hello J. Marie. I think I figured it out. You can’t just print the statements out in Spanish. You actually have to change the language preference of your whole account online. I googled how to do it – google “how to change language to Spanish in Wells Fargo” and it should pop up. If you don’t see it, send me your email and I will send you the screenshot/link

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      • Yes, I read this as well and had already tried. However, the reps at WF state this will only ensure the next months statement will be printed in Spanish. So, this is not helpful if we need 3 months leading up to February.
        Regarding folks on your blog stating they have submitted financials without translation or apostille and having them accepted – what are your thoughts?

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  24. Do you know if it’s possible once you receive your favorable result to go in and start the TIE renewal process? Or do you have to wait for it to be expired?

    Seems like even if you start this process early (a month or two before the expiry), you are looking at at least 30 days past the expiry day to get your new card, assuming you can’t actual do the second part of this process until after your card expires – thoughts?

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  25. Hey girlfriend! SO happy I found this article. I regrettably started looking into this WAY too late, about a month before my expiry date after the first year and at that point hadn’t been making 2200 euros a month to show for the renewal appointment (who is, right?).. anyways, I decided to use the 90 day grace period after to submit that money to my Spanish account each month then will go to the office and with my Caixa statements and the rest of the paperwork… hoping it works! Wish me luck… this whole process is so frustrating.

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  26. We are a married couple with different last names.
    For the Form 790 do we just pay once for the two of us?
    Do we write in both of our names or just one?
    Thanks!

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    • If you are each applying for the visa, I believe you would need to pay the tax each. I’m not positive however you can try contacting justlandedbcn.com and maybe they can help answer your question

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  27. Hi! hope you can reply to me. My lawyer told me that if I renew with him online it will be solved in 2 weeks but if I do it in person myself it could take 2 or 3 months. I saw that you do it in person by yourself and the resolution took you 2 weeks. Is that true? anyone else have good experiences by doing it without a lawyer? Thanks!

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    • Hey Amy! Not sure why your lawyer would guarantee a resolution in two weeks UNLESS he has a hook up or a person on the inside. If you are on a time crunch and if you are willing to pay the fee, then that would save time and headache. Most people think that you have to have “an appointment” to renew the visa but you don’t. You can just stand in line like I did.

      I think the reason my resolution came in two weeks was because I applied in January. I assume they are crazy busy now with all the renewals. Best of luck

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      • Thanks for your quick reply. You are very kind. Yes I went to Calle Bergara, 12 as you recommended today just to take a number and ask the front desk if I would need an appointment and the funny thing is that THAT was the appointment because the girl asked me “What papers do you bring?” and I told her “No, I just need information” and I waited 40 minutes for that info ahaha. It was like a test 😀 Well you are right not sure why my lawyer thinks it will be faster with him.. I will think about it. Thanks!!

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  28. Our second renovation is in process and we need to fly out of country for a sick friend. Our visa and NIE expired in March. We know we need the EX-13, copy of passport, etc. Does anyone have experience with this request (Autorizacion de Regreso) and suggestions on how to make it go smoothly? Thanks!

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    • I wrote about obtaining Autorizacion de Regreso in this same blog. I believe that since your renewal is in process they will give you the authorization. You just have to bring the proof that you submitted for a renewal

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  29. Thank you for the information about the renewal and the Authorizacion de Regreso. And thank you to everyone who posted comments about the waiting period in BCN. I wanted to share two things that I think people may find useful.

    First, they renewed my visa exactly 7 weeks after I applied (I applied in March). That was much longer than what other people had posted, so I was worried. But I think this time of year there are simply more applications. It took 35 days for me to show up in the system (before it was just saying NO SE HA ENCONTRADO LA INFORMACIÓN SOLICITADA), and then another 14 days to see that it had been approved. It’s also worth mentioning that the approval date was on a Friday, but it didn’t appear until Monday. So, if you’re waiting and waiting and waiting and nervous, don’t be! It’s a long wait, but the news can still be good!

    Second, with the Authorizacion, it’s worth mentioning that the document ONLY allows you to re-enter the Schengen via Spain. It says that on the document, but I didn’t realize that until after I obtained it. I mention this because it can make a difference. For me, I went from BCN to Greece via London (crazy, I know, but the tickets were half the price). Because I was re-entering the Schengen in Greece, the document was not valid. I didn’t have any issues because I was within 90 days of the expiration of my residency card. But people need to be aware of that point. And I was glad that I had the document because if Greece had denied me re-entry, at least I knew I could fly back to London and re-enter Spain with that document. For me, returning to Spain was the most important thing, and the peace of mind was worth the 10 euros for the document.

    Thanks again to Jenny and everyone on this blog. The information was really helpful. I hope my info helps someone else as well.

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  30. Hi Jenny! So I finally presented my papers last week personally as you recommended and all went good. Now I would like to know how you did with the NIE appointment (This is my second renewal). Should I start looking for the appointment now?. Last time I had to pay a lawyer to get one and it looks like things are the same now.. its difficult to get it yourself. What I would like to know is if its recommended to start looking at this now and if I should still try by myself. Also how much time do you have to get the TIE after you receive your approval? is one month like in the first year? Thanks!

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    • Hey Amy! Are you talking about making an appointment for your fingerprinting?
      Based on all the posts, the office is running way behind. I would try looking for an appointment as soon as you get your renewal approved.

      Does this answer your question or maybe I’m not understanding exactly what you’re asking.

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      • Hey! Thanks for your quick response. I really appreciate your time. So yes, you suggest to start looking for it when I get the approval but I have read some posts and tweets of people saying that is impossible to get one or you get one after 2 months. There are people that pay lawyers to get them quickly as I had to do. So I wanted to know if you were able to get one for yourself and if there is a time frame to get your TIE otherwise your approval will expire?. Look https://www.catalunyapress.es/texto-diario/mostrar/997176/odisea-obtener-nie – Thanks again!

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      • Congratulations! Well that was fast! What was your secret? Did you check in the morning? Which office did you get it for? And how far in advance is it for?

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      • Hi Jenny! The cita that I’ve got is from Badalona. Do you think I will have problems for not being in Barcelona municipality? Thankss

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      • Hi Jenny! Replying to your questions “What was your secret? Did you check in the morning? Which office did you get it for? And how far in advance is it for?” I don’t have any secret haha I just tried at 8:30am and it showed me several options and I chose Badalona which was the most near to Barcelona but I’m not sure if I will have problems presenting my approval there. Anyway I didn’t get the approval yet and the appointment is for May 17th lol! so I don’t think I will make it for that date. Cheers!

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      • I can’t say for sure if you will have any problems in Badalona. I hope you get approved soon! I think I made an appointment in November for a date in January at the office at guispocoa (spelling?)

        Anyways, keep me updated! Thanks Amy

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  31. Hi Jenny! I have some questions about the fingerprints paperwork.
    1. The Passport photo – must be different photos from previous card. – In what sense was this different? I think I have a few photos from the previous TIE. Will those work?

    2. TAX Form 790 012 – What should I put or select under AUTOLIQUIDACIÓN. It says “SI ES UNA AUTOLIQUIDACIÓN COMPLEMENTARIA, INDIQUE EL NÚMERO QUE HAY SOBRE EL CÓDIGO DE BARRAS DE LA LIQUIDACIÓN PRINCIPAL, ASÍ COMO EL IMPORTE “No clue what they mean by that and I speak Spanish! Do you have any idea?

    Thankss (I still didnt get the approval yet but it says EN TRAMITE wiii”

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    • 1. I had left over photos from my initial card. I tried to use the same ones for the new card and they wouldn’t accept it so I just went across the street to get new photos done.

      2. Leave that part blank

      🙂

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  32. Thank you for all this info Jenny! SO APPRECIATED! This is my second renewal and the process has changed slightly so it was so helpful to have your guide.

    FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEIR FINGER PRINTS APPOINTMENT – Just keep trying. I did mine over and over and over. And once I would get an appointment with my NIE in a fairly far away location (like Manresa), I would try again with my Passport number and get a better location. I did this over and over until I got one in Badalona. From my understanding, You are allowed to the fingerprints in any of the locations that pop up. You will just have to go back there to fetch your TIE when its ready.

    QUICK QUESTION – if anyone has had a similar experience. I received a renewal notice almost 2 months after I applied. I was also worried as it took much longer than my first renewal (which took 2 days!) BUT it came through. I did my finger prints and received the REGUARDO to pick up my TIE in 30 days. I also noticed this document says CADUCA A LOS CUARENTA Y CINCO DIAS. (It expires in 45 days)

    I am actually going out of Spain when the 30 days rolls around. So I figured I would have a little cushion to pick up the TIE. BUT this seems like a new rule. Has anyone had experience with this? Did you get there after the 30 days and was it ok? Any feedback is appreciated! Thank you!

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  33. Thank you for all the great info. The link to the EX-01 is no longer working, although I swear it was a few days ago. Maybe a temporary issue?

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  34. Hi Jenny! I write again just to THANK you for this amazing help. Today after 1 month of the application (exactly) I’ve got my 2nd year residency approved!!! I was about to pay some lawyers to help me with the process, they make you think you need their help but I just followed your guide and did it all by myself.

    One thing I would like to mention is that I didn’t present my bank statements with the apostilla because I couldn’t travel to my country. So it works without it! at least in my case.

    During all this waiting time I was able to find a fingerprints appointment TWICE! I found them around 8:30am.. but since those days expired I need to try it again now he!

    Hope my experience helps others as well. I just needed to wait 1 month to get it Approved!!!

    Thanks a lot!

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  35. I have another question! Ive just booked the fingerprint appointment and this will be in a month and 1 week. Do you know if this could affect anything or the time frame is fine? Thanks

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  36. We are trying to get appointments for fingerprints, which have become available this morning for the first time since we started checking. We’ve done the initial appointment at the Calle Bergara office (submitting docs). I’m getting a strange error – even though there are appointments in two different locations after I jump through the hoops I end up at a screen that says
    ‘NO HAY SUFICIENTES CITAS DISPONIBLES
    Lo sentimos, pero no hay citas disponibles con fecha posterior a la caducidad de su tarjeta.
    Por favor, vuelva a acceder más tarde.
    Ministerio de Hacienda y Administraciones Públicas.’

    But our cards have already expired (June 1), so that doesn’t make sense. Anyone else run into this error?

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    • Hi Keith, yes try again and again. For me it worked around 8:40 am Its not an error, its because there are people who steal appointments and then sell them so they are very fast. You should try many time and the do everything very quickly. Good luck!

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  37. Given that you can renew your non-lucrative visa two months before, what happens in your case where it’s renewed within a few weeks – can you go get a new TIE card then, or do you have to wait until it expires? I heard you have to make that appointment within one month of being approved, so if you can’t renew it right away seems like there is a weird case where you are approved but can’t yet go get the fingerprints and the card. Thoughts?

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    • If you happened to find an appointment right away for AFTER your card expires, book that appointment. No way you can get your fingerprints before the card expires. They will probably turn you away if your appointment is before the expiration date

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    • For the renewal I paid for 1 year. When it expires you should renew. AME doesn’t do it automatically so I have a date set on my phone. 37€/month is a pretty good deal and better than waiting for public health care

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  38. Hi Jenny, this article is a life (and money) saver, thank you!

    I am nearly done, got my fingerprints appt this coming Monday. My only concern is my padron – I have a padron confirmation that I his just under 6 months old. Is that too old?

    I have been looking around for appointments at the ayutamiento to take out a new padron confirmation but there are none available before my fingerprint appt.

    Any advice would be highly appreciated. Cheers

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    • Yay almost there. Padron should be less than 3 months old. So if you haven’t moved, definitely get a new one. It’s really easy. You don’t even need an appointment. Just go to the padron place and go to the red machine. The machine will scan your ID and print you a copy!

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      • Huge relief, will do! One last question, what do you mean exactly by ‘NIE approval letter’? Are you referring to the residency application ‘approved’ confirmation on the website? I have exported it to a PDF. Haven’t received any letter by mail though. Thanks.

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  39. Has anyone had their approval take longer than 2 months?? I’m almost at 3 months now and its still ‘in tramite’. Have tried calling and emailing, their response was that its normal and can take up to 3 months, but cannot help being worried. My current card expired 3 weeks ago.

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    • Hi mine is over 3 months as of today (Oct 31, 2019). I did go to Extranjeria here in Madrid and was told they are talking 3 to 4 months.
      Question for you: When you search on line do you see ‘In Tramite’? Mine says that it has not been found yet.

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  40. I have a question. I already got an Autorizaciones de Regreso because my NIE will expire on Oct 14. I have a scheduled fingerprinting on Oct 15. Will I have problems entering Germany on Oct 21, given that I am just waiting for my new NIE card to arrive? Which documents should I bring? Thank you for answering!

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    • Hey! I honestly don’t know and I don’t want to give you any wrong information. I do see the problem because you are entering a Schengen country with an expired card – that will definitely be a problem. I’m sorry I cannot help you.

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  41. Hi Jenny,

    I am due to collect my new NIE card next week but I just lost the old one. Will I have any issues picking up the new card? Can I show the police my passport instead?

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  42. Hi, I’ve been told that I do not show enough money in my bank account for my TIE to be renewed (I have the monthly income requirements, but not the savings needed). My university has told me conflicting things, and I really don’t know what to do.

    What is the rule for an American citizen for when the TIE expires? Can I stay for up to 90 days past the expiration date? Or, if they say I have to leave within 15 days, do I have to do that regardless? And if so, for how long do I have to stay out for? Thanks 🙂

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    • Hey Amanda. You must be on a student visa which I’m not familiar with what the requirements are. I’m on the non-lucrative visa so I had to prove I had enough funds for the renewal for 2 more years.

      As far as when your visa expires, I heard that your tourist visa kicks in so you have 90 days. Again, don’t quote me on this – this is just what I heard from my gf

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      • Thanks so much for the reply! Do you happen to know anywhere where I could find this information through the government officially? Thanks!

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  43. THANKS FOR ALL THIS USEFUL INFORMATION. Consulate in Montreal, told me if I stayed one full year before leaving Spain, I would qualify for the Seguro Medico, but they asked me for proof of medical insurance…Have you heard about that?

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  44. Hello everyone. This is for Madrid only.
    I submitted my application for my first renewal of my non lucrative visa late July, 2019 and today after three and a half months, I went to extranjería office to inquire about its status. The officer looked in the system and showed me evidence that they are taking four to four and half months.
    So for those of you who are still waiting, be patient.

    If you must check on your own, you have to do it in person and with an appointment. For that, click the cita previa link above and request an appointment for información.

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